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Chatlogs of a Upoc groomer -- Jon Greenberg aka INDY_STUD | Print |  E-mail

 

Note to defenders of Greenberg:

Jon Greenberg aka INDY_STUD and most recently, The_Only_1

Take a honest look at what you're defending. That is, if you're capable of intellectual honesty. This is a guy who has lied to you and everyone else numerous times. You know this. Here we'll list his many lies, and also address some of the newer excuses and dismissals you apologists have been propagating.

Originally Greenberg claimed that INDY_STUD was not one of his Upoc accounts.

Our proof was too solid for this lie to last long. Far too many people sent Upoc group invites to Greenberg's cellphone number, and had the INDY_STUD handle come up on their invite list. In fact, several of his apologists he has today did this. They knew early on that Greenberg was lying. Of course, he changed his story quickly..

Greenberg claimed he had been "hacked" and even claimed to have a recorded phone conversation to prove it! 

Now he was admitting the INDY_STUD account was indeed his, but was claiming his phone and/or the Upoc account had been "hacked" and it was someone else, some mysterious "hacker" who made the chats with the underage girls, not him. He claimed he had a recorded conversation from the "hacker" who told him this. Despite numerous requests to produce this recording, Greenberg never did because in fact, it never existed. He also later admitted he'd made it all up! There was no "hacker" and no phone call.

Greenberg admitted he was INDY_STUD and did the chats, but claimed he didn't know the ages of the girls because he couldn't check profiles while using SMS. 

This lie almost sounds pretty good on its face. It's true you cannot readily check Upoc profiles while using SMS (Short Message Service) to message in Upoc. However, when you read the chats it's clear he knew the ages, because he was asking them! He was also telling the little girls he liked their profiles, showing that he was indeed, viewing them. He dropped this lie pretty quickly too, after this was pointed out.

Greenberg lied about his "trip" to Illinois to meet "trailertrash" for a fight he'd asked for. "Fight Night" in Upoc was a dud, because Greenberg didn't show!

Greenberg decided he wanted to meet and fight one of the chatters who was confronting him with our information, so a meet was arranged in Illinois. Greenberg even sent voice messages into a Upoc group, claiming to be in his car and on his way.
He somehow made the two-hour trip from Indianapolis in only 45 minutes -- in an amazing, totally silent car that left no background noise in his voice messages at highway speed! The car was amazing in another respect, he'd told trailertrash that he needed gas money for the return trip! But somehow, he was able to drive to the scene and all the way back home -- making the four-hour round trip in only two hours -- without collecting this needed cash! His "carbon footprint" must be really small! He later claimed he'd showed up at the hotel and couldn't find trailertrash, gave up and went back home.
Listen to a Upoc chatter analyze Greenberg's fantastic, amazing car and bust out his story in voice messages sent to a Upoc group. Click here and here. 
Despite witnesses at the scene -- the booking desk at the hotel and a convenience store clerk nearby were called, trailertrash's girlfriend was with him at the hotel,  trailertrash's posession and picture of the hotel receipt, and several Upoc chatters who called "trailertrash" at the hotel where the fight was to take place, Greenberg still claimed he was there and trailertrash wasn't. Greenberg himself called trailertrash at the hotel though, asking for directions! So of course he knew trailertrash was there.
Greenberg never showed. In fact, he never even left his apartment in Indiana, as he later admitted! He's a liar, and a perv -- and yep, a coward too!

Greenberg admitted everything he'd claimed was a lie, and said he lied because he was afraid he would go to jail. He said he was afraid he would go to jail!

In a phone conversation that really WAS recorded, >click here to listen<   Greenberg admitted everything: Being the sole owner and user of the INDY_STUD account, there was NO "hacking" of his handle, doing the chats with the underage girls, and lying to conceal his behavior after he was exposed. He also said he lied because he was afraid he would be arrested. Now, ask yourself this: if a man is "innocent" why would he have any fear of being arrested? We'll have a complete transcript of this conversation shortly, for those of you without media players.

Greenberg apologists now like to claim that if Greenberg had done anything wrong, he would have been arrested, tried and convicted. 

This is the most ridiculous piece of flotsam the Greenberg apologists have ever come up with. Thousands of people each day commit crimes and are never arrested, or even detected. That makes them lucky, not innocent.

  1. Greenberg is lucky because he wasn't chatting with any law enforcement officers posing as underage. It was REAL little girls who only reported him to us instead of the police.
  2. Greenberg is lucky because in point of fact, "grooming" of underage kids online isn't necessarily illegal in all states until the perp takes some overt actions such as arranging a meet or trying to obtain nude photos of the teen. Greenberg was caught and exposed before he could take it that far with the REAL KIDS he was grooming.
  3. Greenberg himself admits he lied about all of this because he was afraid he would go to jail. He knew what he'd been doing was wrong, and illegal. Out of his own mouth, he condemns himself. Need any more be said? "Innocent" and, "not arrested" don't mean the same thing, at least not in the real world. Apparently it does though, in the Greenberg apologists cellphone junkie world.

The apologists have now settled on a final story: "The chatlogs were faked." 

Sure. Right. We can't help but snicker at this one. Even though Greenberg himself admitted the chatlogs we obtained and published here are real, even after their OWN tech people and Upoc itself, said the chats are real, they continue with this lie. Upoc is SO convinced the chats are real, they even took the step of deleting the INDY_STUD account!

Lying to themselves and everyone else is these apologist and enablers main stock in trade. They now desperately cling to this most blatant of all lies, thinking that if they stay consistent now, and say it loud enough and long enough, some people will believe them. They obviously went to the Joseph Goebbels "big lie" school of propaganda.

These apologists really don't care what you do, so long as you don't get caught by law enforcement. As long as you're their little Upoc text friend, you can seek out and groom little kids for sexual assault encounters. You can lie about it, even to them, and they'll forgive you and lie for you because you're their "text buddy." It's a truly sick world these cellphone junkies live in, isn't it?

So, what can I do to help? 

Spread the word. Tell everyone you know to read this article. Send this link to your cellphone contacts:  http://tinyurl.com/378fpq

Link this page in every Upoc group you can, to spread the word and let the entire community know that a child predator is being harbored and protected there. Send us feedback letting us know how you did.

The apologists and enablers fight Greenberg's "Upoc battles" while he hides and stays mostly out of chat groups and out of sight. He won't even "fight" his own battle! Greenberg's cellphone junkie apologist enabler goofs don't seem to mind that Greenberg probably still is using the service to find, contact, and groom little girls, while they fight his battle for him.  Continue reading below, for the original article on INDY_STUD aka Jonathan Greenberg:

 

Chatlogs of a Upoc groomer -- Jon Greenberg
 

ADMIN NOTE: Upoc recently deleted the Greenberg accounts MAN-OF-HONOR and THE_REBEL. However we are aware that Greenberg is still using the service, his enablers and "Sprint Friends" are claiming he has a "secret" account which only they know. They're also falsely claiming that Greenberg's accounts were "jacked" or, stolen. This is one of the many claims Greenberg made when he was caught grooming little girls on Upoc.

This means Upoc is cooperating once again in hiding this known predator in their community, and probably changed his user account names to help him hide. This is all too typical behavior by Upoc, taking no action against the predators in their site other then helping, harboring, and enabling them.

Upoc user Jon Greenberg, aka JayGee03, JayGee06, MAN-OF-HONOR, THE_REBEL, THE_ONLY_1, about a dozen other handles, made one called INDY_STUD with the express purpose of trolling for and grooming underage girls on Upoc.com.

Here's a screengrab of one of his recently deleted incarnations on Upoc, THE_REBEL which the ever-cooperative Upoc "customer service" team previously changed the name of, from his original "jaygee03." Again we see, helping these pervs out any way they can.

Greenberg Profile

This guy is still an active member in good standing in Upoc. He is a danger to kids there. Upoc knows this, yet does nothing.

Here's his latest persona, we verified it despite his claim on the profile that he's in Florida. Greenberg is now known to be using the Upoc handle The_Only_1 screengrabbed below:

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Greenberg uses multiple handles on Upoc, and we have no doubt he has some we don't know about. After all, we only found out about his INDY_STUD persona after it was reported to us.

Following are some examples of his work. Since he's trolling and grooming, there's no overt sex talk in these chats.

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INDY_STUD
There's no "perving" in text. He waits until he has them groomed for that, even says things like, "I don't want to make you uncomfortable" like a classic groomer. He saves the sex talk, for when he calls. Read this, our comments are added in italics:

Jul 08 10:12PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: blondecutie1 (she's 13 people...)
Hello cutie (good thing she didn't answer)

 Jul 09 12:03PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
34 m indy n u?

 Jul 09 12:05PM
Fr: angel505 To: INDY_STUD
16 f NM

 Jul 09 12:06PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
Do u like older men?

 Jul 09 12:06PM
Fr: angel505 To: INDY_STUD
Yes.

 Jul 09 12:07PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
Cool!!What u doing?

 Jul 09 12:10PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
Bored!What do U look like? (No problem with her being only 16 Jon?)

 Jul 09 12:10PM
Fr: angel505 To: INDY_STUD
G2 my profile its under messages

 Jul 09 12:12PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
I like what i read!!!

 Jul 09 12:13PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
R u single? (Aren't most 16 yr-old girls, Jon?)

She answered "Yes" so Jon figures it's ok to continue:

 Jul 09 12:16PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
So am i single unless we hit it off lol

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INDY_STUD
 Jul 09 12:30PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
i cant wait i hope we hit it off btw whats ur name mine is jon

He asks for her number, she gives it to him, then this:

 Jul 09 12:28PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: angel505
Ill Call in 30 mins.
(He had to wait 30 minutes, because he was grooming two other girls at the time.)

Here's more, another girl though:

 Jul 10 4:33AM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: noorie17
(lies about his age here)
21 m indy n u?

 Jul 10 4:34AM
Fr: noorie17 To: INDY_STUD
17 f ny. Whats indy-and what time iz it there?

 Jul 10 4:44AM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: noorie17
where do u live?

Then after only 12 minutes of grooming, just making chit-chat, getting physical description, he goes for it: 

 Jul 10 4:58AM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: noorie17
do u wanna talk on the phone?

 Jul 10 5:01AM
Fr: noorie17 To: INDY_STUD
No,lol-no offense-dnt no u. (Smart girl)

 Jul 10 5:02AM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: noorie17
ok thats cool so what do u like to do for fun (And yet, he continues grooming)

 

Jon Greenberg, the equal opportunity wanker

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Swings both ways
As we have so clearly seen, age is no barrier to Jon. Apparently neither is gender. Jon also seemed to, umm.... well.... Not limit himself to little girls. He was also looking for adult male phone-sex buddies, bbear here is quite male:

 Jul 09 12:14PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: bbear35
Asl

 Jul 09 12:15PM
Fr: bbear35 To: INDY_STUD
(RE:)35 wm georgia

 Jul 09 12:16PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: bbear35
34 m indy

 Jul 09 12:19PM
Fr: bbear35 To: INDY_STUD
(RE:)180 lbs 6ft brown hair green eyes laying in bed wearin a t shirt and red bikini briefs

 Jul 09 12:20PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: bbear35
I was hoping u were naked

 Jul 09 12:21PM
Fr: bbear35 To: INDY_STUD
(RE:)Well i can be

 Jul 09 12:23PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: bbear35
whats ur number?

 Jul 09 12:24PM
Fr: bbear35 To: INDY_STUD
(RE:)Just taken off briefs 706 836 0542 if u want to call

 Jul 09 12:26PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: bbear35
Ill call u later

 Jul 09 12:27PM
Fr: bbear35 To: INDY_STUD
(RE:)I will be with family later

 Jul 09 12:28PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: bbear35
What time?

 Jul 09 12:29PM
Fr: bbear35 To: INDY_STUD
(RE:)I will be leaving in about 1 hour

Pretty disgusting, as the chats show that while Jon was setting up his phonesex date with bbear, he was also grooming two very young girls.

 

Here's Jon's public confession, which he posted in a public Upoc usergroup:

 Oct 24 10:26AM
Fr: MAN-OF-HONOR To: UPOCS MOST HATED
good morning all im making a guest appearence in this group to clear the air on some things 

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MAN-OF-HONOR
Oct 24 10:29AM
Fr: MAN-OF-HONOR To: UPOCS MOST HATED
i admit i was INDY STUD but never had any intension of trooling or gtrooming underagre girls. (His misspells.)

 Oct 24 10:30AM
Fr: MAN-OF-HONOR To: UPOCS MOST HATED
i was going thru alot of bad times at that point in my life and some ppl know what i was going thru so i made a handle>

 Oct 24 10:33AM
Fr: MAN-OF-HONOR To: UPOCS MOST HATED
that no1 would no it was me.I felt i needed some1 to talk to without them knowing it was me.I didntknow the ages cause>

 Oct 24 10:34AM
Fr: MAN-OF-HONOR To: UPOCS MOST HATED
i was on sms i was just trying to talk to strangers about the problems i was going thru.i apology to all especially my>

 Oct 24 10:36AM
Fr: MAN-OF-HONOR To: UPOCS MOST HATED
to my friends.I hope this will clear things up i didnt mean any harm i have no futher comment on this topic

 Oct 24 10:38AM
Fr: MAN-OF-HONOR To: UPOCS MOST HATED
1 more thing i never recorded James saying he set me up 

Ok, so Jon: It's good that you admitted it was really you as INDY_STUD the whole time, it's good that you admitted you lied to everyone, it's good that you admitted no one ever "set you up" and it's good that you had the courage to publicly admit all this.

BUT, TWO PROBLEMS:

1.) You were ASKING the girls their ages, as the chats clearly show. So your claim that you didn't know their ages because of SMS and not being able to check profiles? False. Not only were you asking ages, you also were checking profiles, as is illustrated in the chats posted above.

2.) The story about going through "bad times" that you seem to be using to rationalize all this, doesn't quite wash either. It's a play for sympathy that the chatlogs show isn't quite accurate. We'll demonstrate, from your chats:

Jul 07 5:31AM
Fr: HARDC0RE To: s5778
MET SOME1 FROM UPOC BUT IT DIDNT WORK OUT

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HARDC0RE
Jul 07 5:35AM
Fr: HARDC0RE To: s5778
THE BITCH WALKED OUT ON ME BUT IM NOT RELOCATING AGAIN

Jul 07 5:38AM
Fr: s5778 To: HARDC0RE
wat omg thts bs n jst plain wrng if u ask me dnt blame u 4nt relocating tho i got lucky n my bf drove frm ky2 tx 2get us

Jul 07 5:39AM
Fr: HARDC0RE To: s5778
I GOT A GOOD JOB HERE SO WHY MOVE BACK TO FL AND BE MISERABLE AGAIN

Jul 07 5:41AM
Fr: s5778 To: HARDC0RE
who wuz u seeing if u dnt mind

Jul 07 5:42AM
Fr: HARDC0RE To: s5778
BEAUTIFUL.ROSE WAS THE HANDLE

Jul 07 5:46AM
Fr: HARDC0RE To: s5778
I ALMOST MOVED BACK TO NYC WHERE I WAS BORN N RAISED

Ok Jon, see the problem? You weren't talking with anyone at all about your problems as INDY_STUD, but you WERE talking about them with people you know, not "strangers," under your well-known handle, HARDC0RE. If you look at the INDY_STUD chats you won't find anything like that in them.

You told Sheila (s5778) all about it, as HARDC0RE, but was also telling her how happy you were and how good you were doing...

Why were there no chats as INDY_STUD where you were telling strangers all about your problems, as you claim?

Leave the lame excuses out of it Jon, you lied to everyone and all your friends why REALLY? It WASN'T because you were "going through alot of problems" as the chatlogs clearly reveal.

Oh and there was also this:

Jul 10 9:57PM
Fr: INDY_STUD To: Beautiful.Rose
hello

Still hitting up Beautiful.Rose? After she screwed you over? After she "walked out" on you? AND hitting her up from a strange handle, that she wouldn't know was you? Three days after you were telling s5778 what a "bitch" she was?Image

C'mon now Jon, the story of why you did all this doesn't wash. Next time, just stick to the facts and leave the emotional plea and excuses out of it. You came across like you aren't taking personal responsibility for all this, trying to shift the blame to others, namely Beautiful.Rose. She, and what she might have done to you Jon, had nothing at all whatsoever to do with you lying to the world and all your friends. Try again...

If you want your friends to forgive you for lying to them, give them a better reason for it than more constructed excuses that are easily proven also to be lies...

Oh and Jon, didn't you say the girl that caused the "hard times" you were going through wasn't on Upoc? Another lie?

Just the facts dude, leave the sob story out of it please...

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Groomer
After Jon's public "confession" several underage female Upoc users came out of the woodwork and contacted us, all with the same basic story. Jon hits them up out of nowhere with an unsolicited private message, chats and talks real sweet and nice, gets their phone number.

Then when he calls, he wastes no time getting to what it really was all about: Phone sex with a minor. These girls who rejected him, were then subjected to harassment in the form of constant calls, threats, and flooded with text messages to their phones. A real "Man of Honor" there, huh folks?

 

Here's a testamonial from one such victim of Jons:

 :owait u mean jon never told u about the night he asked for my number! hmmm lets see i was 16 at the time... but since i knew jon it was a lil different till i got the call......we talked as if we would on upoc till he got to the more personal questions which i so ardently avoided....and can u still believe after 2 years well at least that i know of he still uses the i don't want to make u feel uncomfortable response.....anyways he asked me my opinions about fon sex...and i made it clear i was not into him after **&@$%%@*#!^%#^!&%# i hung up. but anyways thought u all might wanna know that

We'll withhold the identity of these girls, for obvious reasons. They have all changed their phone numbers and Upoc identities, to get away from Jon. Another who came forward, also gave us Jon's NEW phone number, which he had changed after his "confession."

Now, what does that mean? It means that, despite being caught, busted, exposed AND confessing to all of it, he just went right back to still doing it! Yes that's right people, we got his NEW number from a NEW victim! Not one of the others from before he was caught, but a NEW one that he trolled for and tried to groom, after!

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He's watching playgrounds
Jon is a serial troller and groomer of underage girls via the internet, exactly like "subzerorains" Daniel Thrift was. And like Daniel, the only thing that will stop Jon is, jail.

By the way, we're still watching you and collecting information, Jon.

ImageHere's a bone-chilling fact about Jon: On another mobile picture site , he'd posted several pictures of a playground which he said was near his apartment. Does that scare you? It does us... Why does  a now-35 yr-old man need to be looking at kids playgrounds, much less taking pictures of them?

We have the actual screengrabs of this groomers chatlogs, his work in action. If you want the files sent to you, hit us with some feedback and include a valid e-mail address, and we will be only too happy to send them to you. Learn what it really looks like to see a habitual, chronic groomer of children in action. This individual is a danger to children, everywhere.

We are going to dog this guy anywhere and everywhere we find him on the internet.  We will continue to spread the word about him in any online community we find him in. Because he is dangerous
 
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